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похоже на группу энгейдж эт вил.
воцап? - гуднайт!
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podonok x писал(а):похоже на группу энгейдж эт вил.
с пумпохой за ударными 8)
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позволяю!
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смяшно дураку, что рот на боку...
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Группы типа Джадж надо запретить и придать анафеме ибо они эксплоатируют детский труд, бедный Семми...
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Тогда надо также запретить группу Cut And Run!

А кассету Judge мне Мисс Болгария подарил много лет назад! Я берегу эту ценную реликвию!
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я Сэмми просто нереал уважаю...на его плечах (а скорее руках-ногах) половина хк комманд конца 80-х выехала:))))
Side By Side, Gorilla Bisquits, Judge, Project X,CIV, Rival Schools,Youth Of Today....блин...просто мега респект парню!!!
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I still think of Sam as young, because he was young. In fact, we never called him Sam, we called him "Sammy." He was least 3 years younger than the youngest amongst us, and the youngest amongst us was about 16. But Sammy's story starts way before that. You see, Sam's dad was a drummer. And Sam's dad's dad was a drummer too. In fact the paternal side of Sam's family traces their nationality back to the Gypsies, who have singing and traveling in their blood. Sam didn't grow up in a caravan, though, he grew up on 15th street in Manhattan. "When I was super young my father had packed up
and put away his drums. But I was always like, 'Hey Dad, What are those? What are those?'" Little Sammy thus inspired his dad to once again set up the kit. Within weeks both Grandpa and Dad where schooling the young lad on how to make the skins sing.
In 1984, 11 year-old Sammy's big sister got him a position playing drums in a band from her High School. Noize Police, a combination Reggae-Ska-Punk band, played a few shows around the school. "I was just playing drums and smoking cigarettes and pot - just being a little punk at the time."

Sammy was friends with Walter Schreifels younger brother,
who wound up getting Sammy a short stint filling in on drums for Walter's band, Gorilla Biscuits. Sammy was 12 years old when he played his first real show: "The Birth of Unity" show at The Right Track Inn on Long Island, with Warzone and Crippled Youth. It was a milestone.
Friends and relations kept playing a big role for Sammy. Soon, one of his friends met Jules of Side by Side on a tram headed for
Roosevelt Island. Side by Side needed a drummer, and Sammy connected. "I was already into punk at the time - the big bands like Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedys, Exploited - but Side by Side gave me my first real initiation into the real New York Hardcore."
In Side by Side, the 12 or 13 year old Gypsy started to add travel to his music. "I remember my first road trip. Side by Side went to Buffalo. I was 12. My Mom was freaking out. She gave me all this money in case there was a problem. I was calling her all the time..." A couple of weeks later, road trips became a regular occurrence. "I would call her up and be like, 'Hey Mom, I'm in D.C.!"


In 1987, at 13, Sam achieved another milestone, he recorded and released his first vinyl. It was a Side by Side track on the original Revelation Records compilation, "Together."

This was around the time that the brown van pulled up to Walter's house, which is when I first met the good lad. It was my turn to drive, so I plopped into the
seat and pulled away from the curb - directly into the side of a very Italian Mazda 280ZX (Remember, this was Jackson Heights). For some reason it took us about two hours to work things out with the enraged Italian Jacksonite. It was a good chance for me to get to know the greasy Gus, the smiley Walter, and the young Sam.
Road trips of that sort were common for Side by Side, who most often found themselves in a van with Youth of Today (which is how Walter got involved in the Van of Suffering incident). As a result Sammy quickly became the younger brother and pal of the fraternal YOT gang, especially guitarist John Porcelly.
As time passed, Youth of Today's drummer left to form his own band (Judge), and Sam leapt in to take the spot in what had become his favorite band. "Porcell crammed me for the test. He taught me all the songs. I did my audition and I made it. I was so psyched because Youth of Today was my favorite band. It was a total dream come true." This was sometime in 1987. Sammy was 14.

Sam became straightedge along the way. "Those Youth of Today dudes were super into making people straightedge. One thing about Ray Cappo, he's a great... I wouldn't say 'manipulator,' but he's a great convincer. He tells a great story, he's very charismatic, he
makes a lot of sense, and he's inspiring. He would tell me, basically, 'Don't smoke. Don't smoke pot.' So it just kind of happened, nobody I was hanging out with was smoking anyway, so it just kind of happened. I can't say I really put a lot of thought into it. I was just like 'OK, it makes sense. Drugs are bad. Let's be pure. I'm into it.' Later on I stopped eating meat. I was a couple of years younger than all those dudes and I really looked up to them."
Sam played his first Youth of Today show with pneumonia. The photo on the back of YOT's We're Not In This Alone was taken at this time. "Every time I see that picture I remember what I felt like and I feel like I'm gonna faint."

The next day Sam left on his first tour: a 2 week California stint. "I remember we played Fenders Ballroom with 7 Seconds and Uniform Choice. That was just the sickest, ultimate show for me." This is the period of his career that Sam looks back on as being the most fun. "I was playing in my favorite band.
People were just flipping out. We were playing in people's houses and people were just flipping out. I lost my virginity on that tour. I was sort of like my 'Summer of '69.'"
Except that it was the Summer of 1987. Sam did a US tour with Youth of Today the next summer, and in 1989 they went to Europe. "That was a really intense tour because we were one of the first straightedge bands to go to Europe. At the time everyone in Europe was drinking beer and eating meat, so it was like a real 'mission.' I really felt like a part of something big."

Crazy shit happened on that tour. One day in Belgium, "these metalhead dudes were
hiding in the crowd and throwing beers at Ray during our set. In the middle of one of the songs Ray went out into the crowd and found one of them and kind of pushed him or something." The show somehow returned to normal, and everything finished up. Afterwards, "Ray was over in the bar area getting juice or something and these guys surrounded him and poured a beer over his head, saying, 'Awwwhhh, fuck strewraightedge!' Ray flipped out and hit one of them and came back into the club area where the rest of us were. All of the sudden the whole place just exploded into this huge fight. It was one of the first fights that I was in. It was a really fucked up scene: all these young straightedge kids coming together to fight these bugged-out, really big metalheads." That was a matinee. That same night YOT played another show, "All these fucked up Nazi's showed up. Grown men with '100% White' tattooed on their necks! Fully ready to brawl. We had a song called 'Prejudice.' Ray wasn't backing down, he was all like, 'This song goes out to all the mother-fucking racists!' That whole tour had a super tense hectic energy." It was also in Europe that Ray Cappo stated getting into Krishna, and Youth of Today started losing its focus. Later in 1989 Sam joined John Porcelly and Youth of Today's previous drummer Mike in another landmark Hardcore band: Judge. "Around the same time Walter, Alex, Porcell and I did the Project X record."


Judge split in 1991 and Sam wound up back in Gorilla Biscuits, who did another European tour before breaking up. "For me, that was sort of the end of that whole New York Hardcore scene for awhile."

Sam now joined a Reggae band named 32 Tribes. "That was fully exciting because it was totally new. We played a show with HR [of the Bad Brains] and he came up and sang with us. I have it on video tape. It was pretty intense."

Next, Sam gave a go at College. He studied Jazz Drumming at the New School in New York City, but got bored of scholastic music after about a year and a half.
"At that point," 1995, "Walter and I were like, 'The world needs to hear from Civ.' When Gorilla Biscuits broke up Walter did Quicksand, but Civ didn't really do anything, so we were like, 'It's time for Civ to do something again. Let's do a band and call it CIV.' Civ was down with it, and it happened."

Civ persisted from 1995 to 1998 and took sam to new places like Japan and Australia. They had a Buzz Clip on MTV for Can't Wait One Minute More from their first record on Atlantic Records. They even got to play Madison Square Garden with KISS - which was a cherished childhood dream for Sam.
"On the second CIV record we decided to have fun. I guess we kinda lost perspective. We had been on tour with bands like No Doubt and we felt like making something with more of a rock sound to it. So we bugged-out and did it." The record didn't do well, and CIV broke up.
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zilonis писал(а):Тогда надо также запретить группу Cut And Run!

А кассету Judge мне Мисс Болгария подарил много лет назад! Я берегу эту ценную реликвию!
хы, что за кассету? польскую какую-нибудь? :wink:
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Да! Польскую пиратскую! и Фугази ещё подарил!

Про Сэмми почитаю щас, интересно.
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про Семми отличная статья.
спасибо, Илья.
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заманали свои слухи распускать об этой группе!!хрен нормальных записей достанешь!!!
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польские это были такие с "синеньким" дезигном? Эээээ по моему пиггимот рекордс)))

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я ебанул в 2005-м очень крутой пост!
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забыл еще лимпбизкит и глазджо
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очень хочу посмотреть документальный фильм про judge, у юзера пупсик вроде есть
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